|Is Discontinued By Manufacturer||いいえ|
|Item Dimensions L x W x H||55.9 x 22.4 x 8.6 cm|
|梱包サイズ||55.88 x 22.35 x 8.64 cm|
|商品の寸法 幅 × 高さ||55.9 x 22.4 x 8.6 cm|
Corsair Cherry MXキースイッチ(赤軸)採用 英語メカニカル ゲーミングキーボード Vengeance K90(CH-9000003-NA)
リニアなキータッチが特徴のCherry MX 赤軸は指に軽く、長時間のタイプでも疲労を残しません。
【シリコンドームスイッチ】 マクロキー、F1～F12、Esc、PrtScn、Scroll Lock、Pause/Break、Insert、Home、Page Up、Page Down、Delete、End
CORSAIR ゲーミング キーボード K65 Compact JP
Corsair K95 RGB PLATINUM XT MX Speed ゲーミングキーボード 英語配列 CH-9127414-NA KB513
Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 RAPIDFIRE MX Speed Keyboard -日本語キーボード ゲーミングキーボード KB442 CH-9109014-JP
Corsair K68 Cherry MX Red -日本語ゲーミングキーボード- KB399 CH-9102020-JP
Corsair K63 Wireless CherryMX Red Blue LED -日本語キーボード- ゲーミングキーボード KB431 CH-9145030-JP
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|カラー||ブラック||ブラック||情報が提供されていません||情報が提供されていません||Cherry MX Red||情報が提供されていません|
|商品本体サイズ||55.88 x 22.35 x 8.63 cm||35.59 x 16.59 x 2.69 cm||46.48 x 17.01 x 3.55 cm||43.79 x 16.59 x 3.89 cm||45.49 x 3.89 x 16.99 cm||17.29 x 36.59 x 4.09 cm|
The backlight option is great, volume control is a nice unique touch, and keys take very little pressure to activate. Haven't used the G-keys yet, so cannot comment how effective they are.
This keyboard has been one of my most precious possessions (along side my old G930 and G700) for over 4+ years now of *intense daily* use as I used to game for over 6h a day and work for another 6h each day and to this day (December 8th, 2016... yes... I waited over 4 years to write this review) this keyboard has gone through 0... yes ZERO issues and it looks as good as when I first put it out of the box for the first time. So, build quality is hands down, one of the most impressive things I've seen and owned so far.
Red switches... oh man... It is love at first stroke! I've tried greens and brows... and to me (this will definitely change depending on your own preference) reds are the perfect switch for gaming and daily use. It has a very nice feel to it with considerably *low* sound and very low to almost non-existent "clicky" feel to it (but it might be because I am already so used to the feel that I can not "feel it" any more) which makes it perfect for fast reaction / quick action type of games like FPS or games like Osu!. where you need to be able to do actions at a pace of 200+ clicks per second (particularly in Osu!, I was an avid player and ranked 1st and 2nd in my country ranks, and was hovering around 3k at the time I stopped playing)
Lighting is perfect, no matter what setting you choose it is going to look gorgeous! The metal plate makes it so that enhances the lighting effect and gives it a beautiful blue glow (specially at low light rooms) you will not miss any letter nor get blinded with any of the settings!
Now, for the cons...
Key caps might be a tad bit smaller than I would like (my fingers aren't huge, but I find myself miss clicking more often than not), it is *sometimes* hard to clean but it depends on your patience as you will get stuff stuck into the switches at least once if you use it as much as I have. The wrist rest is solid but the parts that are used to snap into the keyboard feel a bit sub par compared to the rest of the item (and this is really trying to be picky, because I haven't had any issue so far with it as well)
Reasons why I would change it?
1- As mentioned before, it is a BIG keyboard, having a macro area that extends for about 5cm to the left, the fully integrated numpad to the right, add the wrist rest and the header of the keyboard... it all adds up and takes quiet a lot of space.
2- I bought it because I thought I was going to be using the macros a lot (for my work, 3D work / animation / 2D design) but in over 4 years I haven't used them more than 2 or 3 times. So, if you haven't thought about using macros before... you are probably going to want the newer "non- macro" versions for sure!
3- RGB... I know... this is not a really solid reason why but with all the boom on RGB I do wonder from time to time "boy... having this exact same keyboard... but smaller... with RGB... must look STUNNING!", so yeah... RGB!
4- It refuses to break and I am honestly concerned it will take over my house and possibly the world! (it must be put to rest)
But anyhow, this is one resilient, robust, incredibly well put product that you really don't want to skip on. So just do it if it is what you need!
BE ADVISED, THOUGH! Don't think for a minute that you will be stealth-typing with this KB. The keys themselves hit the aluminum backplate and still make noise if you press them down all the way whilst typing.
WHY DID I BUY IT?
-It has a really great and unique design. the keys floating above the brushed aluminum backplate means that your keyboard is no longer impossible to clean without pulling keys.
-Cherry MX Red switches means mechanical keys with no 'click'.
-It's drop-dead gorgeous.
-Has a volume roller which is infinitely more useful than those near-worthless function keys you'll find on other KBs. The roller itself is knurled and aluminum and makes me feel like a millionare every time I touch it.
-A one-touch mute button! Fantastic!
-Has lots of function keys if you're into that sort of thing, and the ability to record macros or switch profiles on the fly using only KB buttons.
-Has one USB2 expansion port for your mouse.
-Nice rubberized wrist rest attached by pivot thumbscrews.
-Super-durable braided cable.
-Super-bright 3-level backlighting, dims to a nice low level too.
-This is probably the best looking keyboard you can buy. The brushed aluminum combined with the floating key style and backlighting make this one seriously impressive keyboard from a visual perspective.
-Cherry MX Red switches aren't 'clicky', reducing noise somewhat. The keys are super responsive as well.
-Does a great job of staying still on a glass desk.
-Cherry MX reds still make a lot of noise when typing due to bottoming out the keys, especially since there's no bump stops.
-Doesn't come with a driver CD. I don't really care, but that might bother some people.
-A headphone/mic jack and more USB ports would be nice, considering many other KBs at this price point have them.
-Profile editor software is pretty confusing, and I have yet to find a FAQ for it. I just program it through the hard buttons instead.
-The aforementioned braided cable is ludicrously stiff, but does tend to hold its shape if you bend it.
-The backlighting is very inconsistent. The letters are fine, but the top-row numbers are barely lit compared to the puncuation marks on those same keys.
-The function keys and ins/del group keys are actually dome-switch, not mechanical, which also dims their backlighting in a big way, and makes them feel squishy compared to the others.
After a week or so, I wouldn't trade this keyboard for anything, despite my few gripes. It would've had 5 stars if not for the inconsistent backlighting.
I am pleased with the form factor, and the three levels of blue lighting are more than sufficient for my needs. The size is surprisingly compact, and it fits easily on a small keyboard tray without the wrist rest (which I choose not to use) and still plenty of room for a mouse.
As a pianist, I am used to striking keys hard, so was a little dubious whether a mechanical keyboard would do me any good, but I found the cherry red switches to be very comfortable, and, because of the standard spacing between keys, needed only a couple minutes to get used to the feel. The keyboard is probably just as loud as the Dell keyboard I have now relegated to backup status, just a higher frequency of clacking vs thudding. It's a very satisfying typing experience with one exception that I'll mention in a moment.
I am not an MMO player but am a big fan of the plentiful macro buttons mostly for work purposes. The buttons are set up in 3 groups of 6, and are seated much lower than the rest of the keyboard, making them easy to feel for without confusing them with the other keys. The macro keys are also backlit in white, so I definitely think the Corsair folks did a good job keeping the macros look and feel distinct from the main board but still conveniently in reach.
The only complaint I have with the keys is that they made the left shift key particularly shallow or I received a defective unit. I makes a much different sound than the rest of the keys and feels like it goes down far less. I can't see or feel any obstruction, but beware that I probably won't be the only one with a potentially busted key. I chose the K90 instead of the more ubiquitous Razer Black Widow because I trusted their build quality would be better, but time will tell if this is an anomaly or a trend.
As to the hybrid keys vs fully mechanical keys debate, I acknowledge that it is still not prominently marketed anywhere, and there will probably be some people who purchase this keyboard without knowing that only most of the keys are mechanical. I originally thought that it doesn't matter much, and for the most part it doesn't-- the macro keys make fine dome switches, as do the function keys, but I found the lack of mechanical switches on the Insert, Home, Page Up, Page Down, Delete, End buttons to be very disappointing in practice. The rationale the Corsair product manager gives that these keys need a good firm press to maintain accuracy certainly makes sense for the macros, but not for Home block. It seems like any experienced typist or gamer will already recognize the perils or mishitting delete vs insert, etc, and are not gaining any additional accuracy by having these buttons be dome switches. I hope any future model revisions will at least make that block mechanical if not any others.
Finally, the keyboard software is competent but the documentation is completely missing. Hitting the info and help buttons currently brings up the Corsair website and keyboard FAQ respectively, which are almost completely useless. The software itself is NOT intuitive and uses icons without labels or tool tips (or help file). That being said, the software does work, and after much searching I discovered that per-application profiles CAN be set by right clicking the name of the profile and choosing the Assign Application. I have not seen any compatibility problems between games.
I wish I could give the K90 a 5 star review, as I was fully expecting to be able to do. Until they at least create a help file for the keyboard software, do not get this keyboard for the macros unless you're willing to put in a lot of trial and error. I wish my left shift key didn't feel like it was stuck, but I'm going to hammer on it the next few days and see if it settles itself out. I'm afraid to send it back because I don't know if I'd get a replacement in the next couple months (unless Corsair wants to play cross-ship with me). It's a shame, because I love everything else about this keyboard and it does games and applications very well... IF you can psychically figure out their software or take the time to figure it out like I did. I never want to count myself amongst the rabid few who believe every key MUST be mechanical on a mechanical keyboard, but I can see their point with the Home block on this keyboard, and I hope Corsair reconsiders at least that block for their next iteration.
EDIT: The backlighting went out under my +/= key after a week of use. Not sure how that's replaceable or if it's worth shipping back, but something to consider if backlighting is important to you. Also, perhaps coincidentally, at one point the = button got "stuck", meaning that it came back up, but then continued to register = keys everywhere I was until I pressed it again. It has only happened once, but it was like it got stuck in software.
-Most of the keys are extremely sensitive so your keystrokes to through very fast. I suppose this is why they say it's good for gaming. I definitely got used to typing a lot lighter while I had it and the louder key presses made me feel like I was typing a lot faster.
-It's very shiny. Really like the aluminum! This was the main reason I bought it... =P It gets an extra star because it's very pretty.
-Mine was defective. All the keys were extremely sensitive, but my "L" key was the opposite. At first I was just missing "L"s while I was typing so I started tapping it a little harder. This worked for a while, after a week of light use it got to the point where I'd have to slam the "L" key into the keyboard as hard as I could just to get it to type out an "L".
-The keyboard is so sensitive that if I rested my fingers very lightly on the keyboard, it'd start spamming keystrokes onto the screen. Some of the keys, mainly my "D" key, were practically touch sensitive. Because I couldn't rest my fingers on the keys, this was adding unnecessary stress to my wrists. The sensitivity killed me a LOT while gaming and I never fully got used to it over the course of the week I owned it.
-The macro keys are lower on the keyboard than the main keys. Because of this, I could only reach 2 of them without moving my hand over there.
-Not all the keys are mechanical. It's very annoying! You go to hit the delete key and you lightly tap it like you would a mechanical key and of course you didn't hit it hard enough.
-The keys are spaced out differently than my old logitech keyboard. Took a while to get used to that.
-The caps lock key is a solid key. What I mean by this is that if you have your pinky finger on the "A" button, your finger can slide over to the caps lock and you might not realize it. With my old logitech keyboard, if you slide your finger to the left of the "A" key, you end up in a little groove so you know your hand moved too far to the left.
The Corsair M90 mouse I bought with the keyboard just died on me as well. The cause? Unplugging it and plugging it back in.... Seriously Corsair? I expected better quality from your products. Never buying another corsair product again.
Thing is...I don't care. This is hands-down the best keyboard I have used yet for Adobe PS editing. I use a high-precision programmable gaming mouse for my right hand and a trackball mouse when greater organic precision is required on my left hand side. I leave my left hand relatively RELAXED, moving the fingers only for 16 of the 54 keys that I have programmed on this Vengeance K90 keyboard, for hot keys, and sometimes for the trackball. This set up is a really fast way to work, and reduces tension (which can be painful if I am working long hours). I have also ordered a foot pedal device that I will program for all Left-Mouse-Click action, which will further speed up my editing, so that in the end, my hands and fingers are only used for fluid movement of mouses and programmed or hot keys, reducing the need to reach across my keyboard for buttons like DELETE and ENTER or from having to tense my fingers when utilizing multiple hot key steps and mouse clicks.
I am in digital editing heaven.
My current desk/peripheral layout is as follows: 1.) Keyboard and mouse are on a lower pull-out attachment of my desk, 2.) my Wacom tablet and pen are on the top of my desk (above my keyboard-mouse setup), 3.) both K90 keyboard and Wacom tablet are slightly elevated with simple strips of wood, making it easier to see and reach keys and tablet, 4.) clear Braille stickers have been added to my K90 keys and my Wacom tablet, further increasing my speed (Braille is fairly easy to learn, and is especially helpful during low-light image editing conditions), 5.) as stated, I am waiting for delivery of a programmable foot pedal to take over all left-click action, and 6.) I use memory foam arm/wrist rests on my chair. This layout is a fast, comfortable setup, designed for fluidity and speed.
Additional comments: Yes, the keyboard is louder than most, but it doesn't seem horrible or extreme to me. I am much more concerned about controlling the speed and precision of my work, rather than issues such as perfect keyboard lighting and noise levels of keyboard maneuvers. You have to decide for yourself where your priorities rest.
Just like my title says, this keyboard exudes quality. Right from the laser etched LED back-lit keys, the Cherry MX Red switches (widely considered to be the best for gaming), the aluminum frame, and the hand rest that's actually secured with metal thumbscrews instead of plastic clips, this keyboard was made to be the best gaming keyboard on the market. The Logitech g15 and g19 may be the BMWs of the keyboard world but this baby is a Bugatti!!!! After getting my hands on it I can now say that I would happily pay $150-$175 for this thing of pure beauty and tell Corsair, "Shut up and take my money!" in typical Fry fashion.
[Update as of Jan 27th, 2017]
This keyboard is still running like a champ. I suffer from the occasional ghosting, but that's it and it's easy to fix. As you can see in my picture it's in still in near perfect condition, except some pealing on the hand rest. I also off kiltered the volume roller somehow. I imagine that this keyboard will last me quite sometime. I want to build a completely new gaming rig, and part of me wants a new keyboard for it despite not needing one, but replacing this one would be a daunting task I don't look forward to. Both the K70 and the K95 have their charms, but they just aren't my trusty K95. Having dealt with Corsair customer service I will not even think about switching brands, these guys have really earned my trust.
[Update as of July 14th, 2017]
Today is a sad day indeed. It finally died on me. I guess that's what ya get when you clickity clackity on the keys for several hours every ay with out fail. I wiped it down while my PC was off and turned on my PC. It lit up and blinked severals times and then went blank. That being said I will be buying another Corsair keyboard soon, probably the K70 LUX. It looks a lot like my K90, minus the G Keys that I never use anyway. (Left hand stays on WASD and right hand on mouse with macro buttons, no need for G Keys.)
Mine arrived in good working condition, the only note I had was the backspace key wouldn't repeat while held down, but updating the firmware fixed that.
The keyboard is pretty easy to customize, I found the software to be fairly adequate. I actually don't use MMO's, but this keyboard can be programmed for any game or software which has been great to use.
The keys are excellent for gaming, having great (and adjustable) response rates and a nice tactile feel to them. The only downside is this keyboard is first and foremost for games; playing a FPS was a breeze and a blast with the K90, but typing up an assignment or report will leave your fingers exhausted. However, there are other mechanical keyboards with different switches if you find most of your time typing rather than gaming (I personally like with scissor-switch keyboards for typing). I also didn't really think it was a big deal that a few keys are dome, but I'm just not that picky I guess; I thought the placement of which keys are dome was smart at least.
The overall look of this keyboard is very nice, and probably the best aspect to the keyboard; the brushed aluminum is great, the lights look great (I have no dead LEDs) and looks very stylish.
I'd say the only downside is the cost, but compared to other basic mechanical keyboards I'd say the cost is warranted.
I think the keyboard's solid, and worthy of a 5-star, but I'm going to say that I really just don't feel that I "love" it in all honesty; it's nice, it does what it should and certain aspects are great, but it really isn't some magical improvement over other solid keyboards at half the cost; I also never realized how much I would suffer from typing on a gaming keyboard and now have to have 2 keyboards for my PC, but that's just me, I won't knock the device for personal preference. I will still fully recommend the K90 for those who have the cash and are looking at purchasing a mechanical keyboard.
It does have some small issues, and one major one as detailed below. First, as noted by others, the lights for the function keys, macro keys, number keys above the qwerty section and the specialty keys above the arrow keys are very very dim. Even with the brightness turned all the way up. Granted, they may not be as important as the other keys, but when you need to find them in a dimly lit room, they still need to be visible right? Small nit pic, but FYI. The keyboard is very sturdy, and the non-macro keys are all raised above the level of the aluminum body, ensuring that nothing will be trapped beneath the keys. I love this feature, but have to wonder why they didn't do it with the macro keys?
The keyboard arrived with a dead LED behind the "2" key on the qwerty keyboard. No big deal, the inconvenience of sending it back is worse than that key not lighting up, but it's worth mentioning I guess. The thing that has me upset is the instructions provided by them.
First, you must download the software for the keyboard. It will work without it as a keyboard, but apparently it's too expensive to include a CD in the box. This usually has a bright side, in that you are virtually assured of getting the latest version. After downloading and extracting the zip to a folder, I found that the very first file in the list was "Important Firmware Update Information" warning me to be sure to update the firmware before installing the software in order to prevent the possibility of timing errors with the usb port. Ok, I did that and installed the software afterwards.
Moving on, there's another file that read "Vengeance Gaming Software Version" That was actually truncated by my explorer window. It's actually the release notes for the software. Now THIS document warns that you shouldn't update the firmware on your keyboard if it's higher than 1.19, as you will be DOWNGRADING your firmware if you do! Well I already faithfully "updated" the firmware as instructed, so I have no freaking clue if it was higher or not! Doesn't the upgrade utility check for a higher version first? Wouldn't the downloaded version be equal to or higher than what has been pulled from a retailer's shelf? Apparently not! This just really ticks me off.
This is not to rip on Corsair, but prospective buyers need to be aware that the description for this keyboard says that it is compatible with USB 2.0, and this seems to be a subtle way of saying it's NOT compatible with USB 3.0 (At least as far as updating firmware) The only way you would know this is checking their support forum, or (after you already bought the keyboard) the release notes.
Corsair warns in their blog:[...]
"Before you go any further it's important that you ensure your device is plugged directly into a USB 2.0 socket on your motherboard. The firmware utility won't run on USB 3.0 and a USB hub may result in a bricked device. Once you've ensured you're plugged into the correct USB 2.0 socket/s go ahead and run the firmware update application."
In their release notes:
"Firmware updaters (sic) require the mouse or keyboard be plugged directly into the PC, rather than into an
external USB hub port or a USB extension cable, such as the USB ports found on the back of the
Vengeance K60 and Vengeance K90 keyboards.
Software cannot detect devices plugged into some USB 3.0 ports. For best results, please ensure your
device is plugged into a USB 2.0 or USB 1.1 port before running the firmware update utility"
Now in my case, I don't even HAVE USB 2.0 ports on my montherboard. Luckily, the update worked fine, although there are many posts on their forum that this bricked the keyboard or caused other problems. A search of the forum also seems to show that the dead LED problem is a common one as well. FYI for those looking at this keyboard. Other than the dead LED on mine, it works fine, but I would never have bought this if I had known of the issues. I just got lucky.
Only some minor issues that could be better.
-Backlighting for all keys not just the main ones. The whole point of a lighted keyboard is to be able to use in dark environments. Top row keys cannot be seen easily and I find myself counting off the keys to find the right function key.
-Larger wristrest. Included one is too narrow. Despite the rubbery surface it is wslick making it hard to keep the wrist on it without sliding back.
-The tilt of the keys leans a bit too far away forcing the user to curl their fingers in a non-ergonomic way. Can cause carpal-tunnel issues. Also because of the key tilt I found my thumbs were hitting the edge of the spacebar instead of the top surface. This is easily rectified by the user by carefully popping off the space bar and flipping it around. It mounts the same both ways.
-Customization software needs instructions. The website says one is coming soon....which was dated almost a year ago. Seriously, how hard is it to write up instructions?
-Only "G" keys can be assigned. Would be nice to include the option to change all keys as desired...e.g. disabling cap lock or programing keys for a gaming profile to change their behavior like repeat rate. This way the user would not have to use a separate program or edit the registry to change keyboard behavior.
As others have said, this is a sturdy, well made piece of hardware that looks great and has some nice features. But for the price, I'm not yet sure the benefits outweigh the issues. YMMV of course!