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初音ミク V4X バンドル
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初音ミク V3以降は基本「ミクの声の音源」を、同梱のpiapro studioで鳴らす感じになります。
当方はABILITY Pro2.0をVOCALOID4 Editorと連動させて使用しています。
Logic Pro X上での立ち上げもホームページで案内があり、特に問題なく使用できました。
BTW: If you want the model to use after you create a song with the voice and instruments, then just Google MMD (MikuMikuDance) and download that free program. There is a HUGE learning curve (from my old dad POV) but fun and ? easy enough for kids!
Mainly, these are really professional programs which will give any kid a huge jump on their computer skills portfolio. It makes learning fun so we are all for it! Our kid has to do all of her school work and chores to get to play with this so it works very well for us. THANK YOU!
UPDATE: 3/22/2018 It is the APE "Artist Pro Edition" you want to register (vs using the free temporary Studio One by mistake) to get Piapro Studio to work with this (and you need that to get the Miku voice into Studio One). If you use the free trial Studio One, Piapro will disappear when the free trial is over in about 2 weeks,,, then you need to register the Studio One APE that comes with this.
Yes there is a big learning curve but it is really worth it and afterall, if you get stuck just ask any 7 yr old for help :-)
8/9/2018 UPDATE: Our daughter's computer hard drive went out "failed" which is causing another huge learning adventure to get the programs into and working on the new hard drive. It seems we are allowed 3 activations (on one computer only) before we have to contact the company to have them ? activate it for us. You also need to DEACTIVATE it with the Deactivation file if you want to move it form one computer to another. I have the DVD but the company aso set up a download good for 2 weeks for me to reinstall it. More on this as I get it fixed.
I didn't install PreSonus Studio One at first, which in my case made PiaproStudio and therefore Hatsune Miku completely inaccessible. I pulled my hair out for hours and later learned that a Digital Audio Workstation with VST plugin support is required. The software setup dialogs say nothing about DAWs, how to install or use Vocaloid or anything. If you can't read the Japanese instruction sheet, there isn't much to go on.
For the price I paid, I assumed I would be getting a standalone program I can run and compose vocals with, but this is not provided unless you buy the Chinese version, Hatsune Miku V4C. In other words, Install PreSonus Studio One unless you have a DAW of your own. If you have a DAW of your own, don't bother with PreSonus, as it has a learning curve of it's own, and may cost you money down the line to receive updates.
I wish there was a concise English instruction somewhere that simply stated how to access Hatsune Miku. I'll say it here. Hatsune Miku V4X is not a full featured, standalone editor software. It's just a VOCALOID Miku sound bank with a bundled VST interface and a DAW (PreSonus Studio One.) To interact with Miku, you need VOCALOID4 or VOCALOID5 software at an additional cost, or you can just run Piapro Studio (a VST) through your DAW. You will not find Hatsune Miku on your desktop or in the start menu. There is no English or Japanese Piapro Studio that you can just run like any regular .exe which was one of my biggest disappointments of this software.
Here are the steps I took to get up and running.
1) Install Miku's Japanese voice banks from the CD using "Hatsune Miku V4X Installer".
2) Install Crypton Future Media VSTs using "Crypton Future Media Installer". You have to choose the correct installer which matches the CPU architecture of your PC. Either 32 bit or 64 bit, but don't install them both. You definitely need to check the box to install the CFM Piapro Studio VST. I don't know what CFM Mutant VST is but I installed it anyway.
3) Download Studio One Artist Piapro Edition (APE) from Presonus website. Skip this step if you have a DAW of your own. This step involves registering an account on PreSonus, activating your license using the orange card contained in the V4X bundle box, downloading the latest version of Studio One, and installing it. This website was the least frustrating one used during the installation process.
4) Register a Crypton Future Media account. This was difficult for me as the English website is difficult to find and is designed poorly. I later learned that the silver english voice bank card in the box gives the address to the english registration page.
5) Activate keys on CFM account. Again, the design of the website is poor. It is possible to register an account in english, but after doing so, few pages are actually in English. Page themes are not consistent across the site. Some hyperlinks are not obviously hyperlinks due to page styling. There is no apparent flow or guide to what I as the user should be doing on the website. This process involved me randomly clicking links until a relevant license input screen was found.
6) Download English Miku V4X. For whatever reason, Miku's English bank is not on the CD with all of the Japanese voice banks. Miku's English voice bank must be downloaded from the website after activation and finding the download link. Your license page on the CFM website contains a link (that frustratingly doesn't look like a link) to the V4X download page. Once I downloaded English Miku V4X, I kept the file in a safe place so I hopefully wouldn't have to visit the CFM website again.
7) Run ACTIVATE4 to activate the software. I was offered a choice to bind the license to the hard drive OR network card. This is confusing and brings up a lot of questions. Which one should I choose? What if my HDD gets swapped out? What if my network adapter goes down?? What if I upgrade my PC and want to move Miku to the new PC?? Can I migrate on my own or do I have to contact CFM every time? Is there a limit of times I can do this? Will my precious Miku become a brick after 3 migrations!? I have seen good DRM in software such as Steam, where there is no risk of losing games by hardware failure, and the user doesn't have to think about DRM or worry about it. Crypton Future Media DRM is bad.
I answered some of my own questions through trial and error. Yes, I am able to transfer the license to a new PC. This is done using the ACTIVATE4 software. First, I used ACTIVATE4 to remove the license from my old PC. Then on my new PC, I installed all the software, and ran ACTIVATE4 software on the new PC. Using ACTIVATE4, I bound the license to the new PC. Great, huh? No! Not at all! What if my computer gets destroyed by a fire, and my license is still bound to the network adapter of my burnt up computer? See what I mean? CFM DRM is bad.
One thing I never figured out is why activation takes place twice. Once on the CFM website, and once in ACTIVATE4. This is another reason why CFM DRM is BAD BAD BAD. This is stressful because it seems so fragile. One mistake, and my $200 investment becomes a brick. Again, I reference Steam, which seems to have solved DRM with a slick interface and stress-free user experience. CFM tries to reinvent DRM, and does it very poorly. CFM DRM favors CFM, not the user who just shelled out hundreds of dollars for the software to support Miku. DRM is a punishment of honest consumers, and I think it's pure madness.
7) Fire up Studio One and create a new song.
8) Add VST instrument Piapro Studio in DAW
9) Double Click Piapro Studio logo in DAW
10) Use pencil tool in Piapro Studio to select a range (why is this necessary? Confusing!)
11) Draw notes in Piapro Studio
12) Visit YouTube to learn how to do basic things in Piapro Studio after raging while trying to figure it out on my own.
In conclusion, the setup process is terrible. If you can get past the setup process, you will surely be rewarded with the priviledge of working with Miku. Honestly I wouldn't have put up with this install process for any other Vocaloid, but Miku is definitely worth it! It has become a pleasure to become a producer, and express my words through Miku's voice.
Her English has a much better tone, plus it's a lot clearer than her V3 version. Her other voicebanks have also improved and overall they all sound much more realistic. But they still leave that good ole Vocaloid sound that is partly why I love the programs singing sound, if that makes sense.
I will say Miku was a lot more difficult to install as compared to Kaito V3. I own Kaito V3, another Crypton Future Media (CFM) Vocaloid, and what was nice is he came with all the software directly on 3 disks (which included Mac + PC versions of the programs on separate CDs & then Studio One on a CD of its own). However, Miku needs to have her English Voicebank downloaded after registration on CFM website and there is a slight hunt for Studio One. However, since I owned an older versions of Studio One it was easy to upgrade with the provided info. Activating the voicebanks was also a challenge. The program installation installs something called Activate 4. The only way I could find it was searching for it in my Windows search bar and it came up. It's easy enough to just follow the directions, enter your codes, and get Miku registered but finding it was a challenge as there were no directions or indication that it had installed. I had to look it up online to figure out how to activate the voicebanks.
Piapro Studio also gets upgraded with V4x vocaloids, if you had V3 voicebanks by CFM. This is a great bonus. Piapro Studio is basically an alternative to using the Vocaloid 4 program. I personally like it and I think it works well with the Studio One Daw provided. Plus it saves you another $100+ on another program that isn't necessary.
Miku's a great sounding voice for anyone who makes their own songs and needs a singer. She's got a great tone for happy songs and even for more serious ones with the different voicebanks.
Note for fellow amateurs:
As mentioned before, I was extremely nervous about getting into making music especially since I was inexperienced with music theory and couldn't decide whether or not it was worth it because if I sucked, the money would've been wasted. I decided to go through and purchase it anyways. Although my first song was bad, I kept continuing and eventually learned the ins and outs of the software programs and plugins. Now, I find it therapeutic and satisfying to make songs using Vocaloid and have firmly decided that I will continue to make them in my free time.
Shipped very fast,
And was in good condition.
I think its important to understand what this fully is before you buy it!
This is a Professional Grade Instrument for Musicians and Musically inclined hobbyists.
If you're just curious about the community piapro.jp or (net) regardless its a fairly easy resource to find.
On the Crypton Future Media website there is a demo and 30 day trial of the software if you want to just learn its perfect.
I use this with Ableton Live and it works great, seamlessly clocks through various plug in vst3 and vst patches.
but there is not one word of English in all the packaging materials and the rather nice users manual...
For 200$ this was a poor impulse bye. the aggravation I'm looking forward to getting this in and working, may never out way the rewards if I don't take to it.
Be cautious and sure you really want this...